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Re: Max weight change

By setherick
2/17/2018 9:05 am
lellow2011 wrote:
setherick wrote:
lellow2011 wrote:
setherick wrote:
The max gain/loss I have seen is 66 pounds in one season. The average I have seen is in the 40-50 range for a season.


That seems like a really high number, but I haven't really tried any major position changes in a while.


Pre-TC weight was 211# (+66 pounds): https://die-hard-fans.myfootballnow.com/player/2439
Pre-TC weight was 252# (+53 pounds): https://die-hard-fans.myfootballnow.com/player/2738
Pre-TC weight was 258# (+42 pounds): https://die-hard-fans.myfootballnow.com/player/622
Pre-TC weight was 243# (+38 pounds): https://die-hard-fans.myfootballnow.com/player/1409
Pre-TC weight was 256# (+53 pounds): https://die-hard-fans.myfootballnow.com/player/1153
Pre-TC weight was 245# (+31 pounds): https://die-hard-fans.myfootballnow.com/player/442
Pre-TC weight was 243# (+49 pounds): https://die-hard-fans.myfootballnow.com/player/295
Pre-TC weight was 312# (-48 pounds): https://die-hard-fans.myfootballnow.com/player/3020

That's just one team. I've had similar results in all leagues since I started experimenting. You can now take a DB and turn them into a DE by mid-week game 5 of the regular season.


Seems like the exact opposite of the purposed changes with "frame"


Frame is definitely in effect. Not all of my players have gained/lost weight like the ones listed above, but those are few and far between compared to the ones that do gain/lose weight. The OP wanted to know what the max weight change was so that's an example of how players gain/lose weight.

The first TC is the real tell for how much weight a player will gain or lose. If a player loses 1-8 pounds, they aren't going to lose much more. But if they lose 14-22, then hello new position. I haven't been tracking TC weight changes as closely as I should. The max gain/loss I can remember is 22 (or maybe 26), but that was an allocation league too.
Last edited at 2/17/2018 9:09 am

Re: Max weight change

By AlexanDragon
2/17/2018 9:30 am
Yeah thats an extreme 100 pounds change. I agree.
Speaking of that, i got 2 wr who were te's before. i think they are both 6"2 so small te/tall wr .
You may know the first as he is my entire team in mfn24 christopher gomez
Second is a rook from La mfn20 stephen ontiveros. Both prodigious wr but they cant get lower than about 215pounds because of this limit.
Is the overweitgh penalty in performance really big with that margin?
Btw i tried gomez at rb because od that but he would not produce at all

Re: Max weight change

By setherick
2/17/2018 9:41 am
No - 8 pounds of physical weight is equal to about 1.5-2 points of speed and 0.5-1 points of AC, so you're not going to gain that much losing 18 pounds. (Don't quote me on those numbers. I'm not looking at the spreadsheet I created and only working off of memory.)

Re: Max weight change

By kursetheday
2/21/2018 1:15 pm
So I'm trying to wrap my head around this: changing a player's position will induce a possible weight gain/loss to better fit that position based on a (hidden stat) player's frame?

Also, what are some things I can do, for players already rostered and in position, in order to make them lose/gain?

Re: Max weight change

By setherick
2/21/2018 1:17 pm
kursetheday wrote:
So I'm trying to wrap my head around this: changing a player's position will induce a possible weight gain/loss to better fit that position based on a (hidden stat) player's frame?

Also, what are some things I can do, for players already rostered and in position, in order to make them lose/gain?


The only thing you can do to make players gain/lose weight is change their position. Once in position, players trend to the average weight of the position.

Re: Max weight change

By AlexanDragon
2/21/2018 3:13 pm
setherick wrote:
kursetheday wrote:
So I'm trying to wrap my head around this: changing a player's position will induce a possible weight gain/loss to better fit that position based on a (hidden stat) player's frame?

Also, what are some things I can do, for players already rostered and in position, in order to make them lose/gain?


The only thing you can do to make players gain/lose weight is change their position. Once in position, players trend to the average weight of the position.


But if u put a rb at wr he will have a slitgh handicap in his running game because he is not at this position anymore.
* or something like that*

Re: Max weight change

By setherick
2/21/2018 3:17 pm
AlexanDragon wrote:
setherick wrote:
kursetheday wrote:
So I'm trying to wrap my head around this: changing a player's position will induce a possible weight gain/loss to better fit that position based on a (hidden stat) player's frame?

Also, what are some things I can do, for players already rostered and in position, in order to make them lose/gain?


The only thing you can do to make players gain/lose weight is change their position. Once in position, players trend to the average weight of the position.


But if u put a rb at wr he will have a slitgh handicap in his running game because he is not at this position anymore.
* or something like that*


Too minimal to matter.

Re: Max weight change

By Dash
2/21/2018 8:04 pm
I'm always using RB's with good speed and PC at WR5..its a common practice.