Punisher, it has 131 views at this juncture it's pointless for removal. (damage done) The screenshot, maybe.

I was hoping he'd remove it upon checking the thread and seeing my comment as he has a strong sense of fairness.

It has always bothered me that you cannot scout any team at any time . One who plays the same league for any set number of games . Not being able to do that is unfair imo, and my hopes are to have that available for an additional scouting tool in the future.

I would have preferred him to link the team so I could go into more detail involving specific rating match ups but I thought he was trying to be respectful yet gain some free advice .

that is what i thought he was doing in that he was being respectful in what he was asking so he could get some advice on how to deal with LBS that play ZONE.

it is just that others i think have asked for advice to deal with some play and i would say i think they posted a screenshot of that play so if they are going to stop people from asking advice then how are people going to figure things out

i think somewhat people ask advice because they want another set of eyes to maybe see something they cant or what not

Pern, there is no way for anyone to tell which opponent this screen shot belongs to. This is from an "experimental" team I am running under an alternate ID.

I also cropped the image so that no one could see which team this belonged to.

Tribewriter,

We had a long discussion about this thread in the league chat of one of my leagues.

First, I dont believe you were attempting to do anything wrong and simply seeking some advice.

The problem isnt with discussing strategy vs certain defenses and how to attack those defenses.

The problem isnt protecting the identity of the owner whose team you posted a screenshot of your defensive scouting.

The problem is that the more specific you make the analysis, it starts to cross the line from help me with general strategy tips and becomes help me beat this specific opponent.

Sure this is an experimental team of yours during a regular season game where you want to try something different......BUT.......

What happens when someone post a similar thread asking for help and it's for a league championship game where sure the identity of the opponent isnt exposed but enough specific info is posted to allow somebody to gameplan vs an opponent with the help of a collective group.

Personally, I dont have a problem with it but from our discussion, it sure seems like a gray area.

The advice given may very well work but honestly it doesnt take into account the roster makeup, play familiarity or play knowledge of each team. QB attributes and LB attributes will directly effect how effective certain plays are plus the level of playmakers you have on offense along with the quality of defensive backs

While that additional information wasnt posted, it was requested to make a more in depth assessment. While you did show a screenshot, you showed restraint and didnt give more information.

The bottom line for me is I have zero issue with this thread EXCEPT for the screenshot. This is the help forum and asking how to attack LB in zone is a legitimate question but specifically targeting your question vs an opponent seems unfair and sets a bad precedent that could be exploited during the playoffs or even a league championship.

I want to make clear that I have absolutely no thoughts that you were intentionally trying to gain some advantage vs an opponent. For the most part, the advice given could have still been given without requesting specifics.

I think in general, everyone was trying to help but by requesting screenshots and access to the rosters, it seems some were prepared to dig in deep and create a full gameplan for you against the opponent.

Now imagine it was a title game, you accepted the advice and won. Is that right?

I have learned a bunch from the forums and I have no problem with owners helping each other. I will freely give advice and try to point newer owners in the right direction but I always try to avoid specifics.

If I've learned anything after many seasons is that what works exceptionally well for one team doesnt necessarily work for another team. So many factors go into the ultimate success or failure of any specific play that it's only through continuous trail and error over seasons worth of data that you can fully hone in on what works for your team.

Sorry for the lengthy reply, I debated about posting anything at all. I have a ton of respect for you Tribewriter and I appreciate that you deleted the screenshot. Good luck with your team

Pandora's Box.

Broken down to asking for assistance in dealing with LB Zone is perfectly fine. It's a Help Forum but how this got positioned and what it could open up is just bad for competitive balance.

Someone could just be bitter about another GM winning a lot or not see a way for them to competitively compete with them so they hit the board and put forth a group think post asking for the entire site's assistance on how to approach the opposing GM. Title Game Scenario.

Ultimately then what are you losing to then? The GM or the Collective Effort? It's like the short lived game show 1 vs. 100. lol

Recap: Generalized Questions are cool and are a great learning tool for all players.

Attempts to have others win you an important deep playoff game which is what this could open up is not and I'll step in immediately if I see it.

You folks make some excellent points. When raymattison21 asked that I post a screen shot, I did not take all of these factors into account.

I was asking for general advice. Across all leagues, I am seeing more of the sets where LBs play zone. The particular game for which I posted the screen shot was meaningless. BUT, it is a bad precedent to set and I hope no one follows my bad example.

I apologize for not considering the larger ramifications of this.

You didn't need to apologize. Your post was made in innocence and to illicit assistance on a general level to aid you in strengthening your GM game.

It was the prompter that put a tailspin into the thread pushing it to crossing the line.

I don't get the gripe. Your just telling guys to make it harder to learn the game. In theory it would be ok for a user to pm screenshots to everyone in order to get varied opinions on any given subject , but this is not ok. Idk? No real mfn rules were broken. So, once again reserve this kinda stuff for private leagues only where this rule is clearly stated to avoid any confusion in the future .