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Re: Interceptions-Nov-2019

By TarquinTheDark
11/01/2019 12:33 pm
Infinity on Trial wrote:
TarquinTheDark wrote:
I don't abandon leagues if my team does worse this season than last season. I don't trash leagues by word or action.


Except for Anarchy, apparently.


Already addressed. Win or lose, I enjoyed playing you and seth. My leaving had everything to do with the two owners who killed 35 being ready to kill that league, too. One of them was already complaining about having to play the AI there, the other has stated that it is a "dead league walking" and blamed JDB for his behavior. Not my words, their's. I'm glad more players have joined ANARCHY now, but I don't plan to re-join as long as those owners are there. Maybe once they quit, we can play there again.

Lets keep going personal, shall we?

I'll re-post
TarquinTheDark wrote:

Before any claims that is what I did in ANARCHY, I specifically did not trash the league before I left. It's a great league. I invited some of the top names in this game to join at the beginning of this last season. If you want real competition, join ANARCHY. Most of the owners are not just winners, but gentlemen. I know of several that "retired" from the game, but kept just one team, in ANARCHY. Just don't be surprised if a couple of bad apples have no respect for the work you put in there.
Last edited at 11/01/2019 12:50 pm

Re: Interceptions-Nov-2019

By Infinity on Trial
11/01/2019 12:33 pm
TarquinTheDark wrote:
I apologize for squinting. Ok, so in this league, since you've arrived, you have decided to go against your reputation. Good luck to you! :)


I believe the reputation derives from what once was known as the "infinity offense," which was a failed attempt to get JDB's attention. I set my first down to only call the 113 counter and 113 post flags. You could stop one but not both. The results were pretty hilarious.

Unfortunately, the immediate fix wasn't an improvement in the game mechanics. He simply nerfed the effectiveness of the post flags play.

Edit:

The reality is, the more you use a particular play, the more vulnerable you are to getting beat by it.
Last edited at 11/01/2019 12:34 pm

Re: Interceptions-Nov-2019

By Mcarovil
11/01/2019 3:59 pm
I forgot the reason but why are my two top rated QBs in different leagues throwing 5 and 6 picks in a game? Thats not fun. what do I need to do to fix this other than not passing the ball?

Re: Interceptions-Nov-2019

By Big Poppa
11/01/2019 5:40 pm
TarquinTheDark wrote:
Infinity on Trial wrote:
TarquinTheDark wrote:
I don't abandon leagues if my team does worse this season than last season. I don't trash leagues by word or action.


Except for Anarchy, apparently.


Already addressed. Win or lose, I enjoyed playing you and seth. My leaving had everything to do with the two owners who killed 35 being ready to kill that league, too. One of them was already complaining about having to play the AI there, the other has stated that it is a "dead league walking" and blamed JDB for his behavior. Not my words, their's. I'm glad more players have joined ANARCHY now, but I don't plan to re-join as long as those owners are there. Maybe once they quit, we can play there again.

Lets keep going personal, shall we?

I'll re-post
TarquinTheDark wrote:

Before any claims that is what I did in ANARCHY, I specifically did not trash the league before I left. It's a great league. I invited some of the top names in this game to join at the beginning of this last season. If you want real competition, join ANARCHY. Most of the owners are not just winners, but gentlemen. I know of several that "retired" from the game, but kept just one team, in ANARCHY. Just don't be surprised if a couple of bad apples have no respect for the work you put in there.


**** son..you've got a serious problem if you're that heart broke over a **** game and the demise of your precious "35".
I picked 4 or 5 teams a season or 2 ago that were stuck and begging for players, and joined them to help em out. "35" was one of them and it was stuck in the middle of the draft. I even bought some credits, changed the team, colors, logos, all that good stuff...Does that sound like a league killer?
Fast forward to now...I left "35" because it lost owners again and again was stuck in the middle of the draft. I don't like sitting around wondering if and when my team will play again, so I posted in the forum that I was leaving. You had nothing to say about it then, and now all of the sudden I'm a league killer...lol

Get over it boy. I've been around here **** near 5 years. I remember 3 years ago when there were at least 100 leagues and every one of them was full, and new ones were being created daily. And now its come to this...I don't like seeing leagues die. I liked it when it was booming.

And I stand by what I said: If you're looking for a league killer, look at JDB. His AI hand grenades league rosters and these last 2 codes have had people leave this game in droves.

Aren't you in MFN 1? Talk to JDB about killing leagues.... Tell him Big Poppa says hey. :)


Re: Interceptions-Nov-2019

By CrazyRazor
11/01/2019 7:27 pm
I'm still trying to figure out how I got into this!

Might as well toss my log in!

I just scouted a well known GM for our game in a particular league.........The guy has run the Man OLB Flat Zone 732 times in the last 32 games! His 2nd most used play: Double Safety Blitz 208 times!

This is why ALL plays need an overuse penalty. Could you imagine a team in the NFL or even a guy playing a video game doing this? They'd get demolished!! What happens in MFN? The GM wins Championships and is touted as a great player.

Idk. Maybe I'm in the minority, but this kind of play isn't competitive. It's annoying.

Re: Interceptions-Nov-2019

By setherick
11/01/2019 7:31 pm
CrazyRazor wrote:
I'm still trying to figure out how I got into this!

Might as well toss my log in!

I just scouted a well known GM for our game in a particular league.........The guy has run the Man OLB Flat Zone 732 times in the last 32 games! His 2nd most used play: Double Safety Blitz 208 times!

This is why ALL plays need an overuse penalty. Could you imagine a team in the NFL or even a guy playing a video game doing this? They'd get demolished!! What happens in MFN? The GM wins Championships and is touted as a great player.

Idk. Maybe I'm in the minority, but this kind of play isn't competitive. It's annoying.


This is counterintuitive, but if you penalize base defensive plays like the Flat Zone, you encourage players to blitz more. And, in fact, do nothing but blitz.

In 4.5, this won't help anyone on defense, but in 4.2 - 4.4, it meant that there was no reason to not destroy every team you played by blitzing 2 every down since you could cycle your blitzes.

The solution here is to make QBs actually read the play better. The Flat Zone is vulnerable in the middle of the field, but the QB defaults to the WR2 on 90% of 212 passing plays and >50% of 122 passing plays. Occasionally, you have a good receiving RB and can destroy the Flat Zone with a TE Flag or FB Middle or PA Curls, but the QB too often doesn't look at the RB who is iso'ed on the TE.

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The other problem with the game right now is that "non-standard" defenses wreck offensive plays. The Flat Zone is ridiculously effective against most of the 203 passing plays and many of the 113 passing plays. Some dime defenses are the best run defenses. There is no real correlation here to anything in the real world.
Last edited at 11/01/2019 7:32 pm

Re: Interceptions-Nov-2019

By Mcarovil
11/01/2019 7:32 pm
Did you win?
CrazyRazor wrote:
I'm still trying to figure out how I got into this!

Might as well toss my log in!

I just scouted a well known GM for our game in a particular league.........The guy has run the Man OLB Flat Zone 732 times in the last 32 games! His 2nd most used play: Double Safety Blitz 208 times!

This is why ALL plays need an overuse penalty. Could you imagine a team in the NFL or even a guy playing a video game doing this? They'd get demolished!! What happens in MFN? The GM wins Championships and is touted as a great player.

Idk. Maybe I'm in the minority, but this kind of play isn't competitive. It's annoying.

Re: Interceptions-Nov-2019

By Infinity on Trial
11/01/2019 7:34 pm
The NFL's Seahawks were pretty effective at running the base cover3 every down, every game, for about 10 years

Re: Interceptions-Nov-2019

By CrazyRazor
11/01/2019 7:42 pm
Mcarovil wrote:
Did you win?
CrazyRazor wrote:
I'm still trying to figure out how I got into this!

Might as well toss my log in!

I just scouted a well known GM for our game in a particular league.........The guy has run the Man OLB Flat Zone 732 times in the last 32 games! His 2nd most used play: Double Safety Blitz 208 times!

This is why ALL plays need an overuse penalty. Could you imagine a team in the NFL or even a guy playing a video game doing this? They'd get demolished!! What happens in MFN? The GM wins Championships and is touted as a great player.

Idk. Maybe I'm in the minority, but this kind of play isn't competitive. It's annoying.


Just scouted. Haven't played.

Re: Interceptions-Nov-2019

By CrazyRazor
11/01/2019 7:50 pm
setherick wrote:
CrazyRazor wrote:
I'm still trying to figure out how I got into this!

Might as well toss my log in!

I just scouted a well known GM for our game in a particular league.........The guy has run the Man OLB Flat Zone 732 times in the last 32 games! His 2nd most used play: Double Safety Blitz 208 times!

This is why ALL plays need an overuse penalty. Could you imagine a team in the NFL or even a guy playing a video game doing this? They'd get demolished!! What happens in MFN? The GM wins Championships and is touted as a great player.

Idk. Maybe I'm in the minority, but this kind of play isn't competitive. It's annoying.


This is counterintuitive, but if you penalize base defensive plays like the Flat Zone, you encourage players to blitz more. And, in fact, do nothing but blitz.

In 4.5, this won't help anyone on defense, but in 4.2 - 4.4, it meant that there was no reason to not destroy every team you played by blitzing 2 every down since you could cycle your blitzes.

The solution here is to make QBs actually read the play better. The Flat Zone is vulnerable in the middle of the field, but the QB defaults to the WR2 on 90% of 212 passing plays and >50% of 122 passing plays. Occasionally, you have a good receiving RB and can destroy the Flat Zone with a TE Flag or FB Middle or PA Curls, but the QB too often doesn't look at the RB who is iso'ed on the TE.

---

The other problem with the game right now is that "non-standard" defenses wreck offensive plays. The Flat Zone is ridiculously effective against most of the 203 passing plays and many of the 113 passing plays. Some dime defenses are the best run defenses. There is no real correlation here to anything in the real world.


I'll agree with giving the QB a better ability to read/recognize plays. I think it would go a long way in helping this game. I still see QB's missing open receivers, throwing into double/triple coverage, & dumping off to the RB way too often.